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Welcome to the People and Projects Podcast where you'll find interviews and insights on how to deliver projects and lead teams!

Nov 9, 2016

What Good is a Mess?

As a profession, project managers have a tendency toward the tidy. Would you agree? I'm not talking about tidy in terms of cleanliness. I'm talking about tidy in terms of organized. Buttoned up. In control.

In this episode, Tim Harford joins us to argue for the value of messiness. Tim is the author of the new book entitled Messy: The Power of Disorder to Transform Our Lives. You can learn more about Tim at his website


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Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast! Have a great week!

Here's Tim's TED Talk on the subject:


MESS and ZERO by Steve Combs are licensed under a Attribution License.

THE CAMPAIGN by Warner Brothers available on Amazon at